posted 10-01-2003 08:50 AM               

i thought they were a little confusing, too, but figured it was just me.

posted 10-01-2003 11:24 AM               

While PHP isn't the most visually pleasing, it flows and functions well. See boards at www.eichlernetwork.com www.lottaliving.com

free software at http://www.phpbb.com/

But I am open to anything that functions well.

posted 10-01-2003 11:48 AM               

This may be Johny-come-lately, but...

The name seems a little awkward, LiveModern? The confusion comes with the word Live. Is it the verb, adjective, or adverb version?

Because of certain software packages of recent memory, I read it as the adverb, which probably isn't correct. Right?

posted 10-02-2003 09:37 AM               

or maybe not ...

must have more caffeine

posted 10-02-2003 10:49 AM               

One of the options that I don't think is available is requiring users to maintain seperate accounts, which is what using one of the PHP solutions (which this board is, as well as others mentioned by joe b) would probably require. Authentication is critical to these types of tools, and unfortunately there are almost no standards between applications for how authentication is done. Hence, combining two systems based on different authentication procedures, so that users can jump back and forth seamlessly, is often really difficult.

posted 10-02-2003 12:32 PM               

I didn't know this until i looked it up at http://www.wiki.org

posted 10-02-2003 08:18 PM            

You set up a general structure, and then enable whoever you'd like to to be able to edit the pages. So it becomes a living directory of information.

I think a fine site would be a Multi-author blog + a wiki. Alternatively, with some articles and such.

posted 10-04-2003 09:54 AM               

i, too, would like to see something different, though i am would be remiss in saying i have thought of anything specific.

i like the blog idea, but am wondering how different topics would be covered clearly.

posted 10-04-2003 11:29 AM               

If you need additional features (other then a discussion board) to integrate there are additional CMS modules available.

I would stay away from the "nuke-based" solutions as they are not very secure.

The CGI-based UBB (which this Dwell Board uses) is a very nice application. But not being PHP-based it only works great up to a point. It will start to creak under the weight as users and number of pages increases. Albeit, that threshold is very high though - I migrated my board from the standard UBB to UBB Threads once it started serving over 2 million pages a month and had over 10,000 registered users.

All three of the "biggies" have strong development communities. The advantage of PHPBB is that it's open source and therefore free. UBB and VB have modest license fees of aprx. $200. But in exchange you get a stable product and some technical support.

Also, PHPBB is a bit "uglier" and takes a bit of tweaking to make it more visually pleasing.

I tend to be less enthusiastic about the other applications available. They have some neat features, but for mission critical environments like my board (which is my livelihood), I prefer something that has a huge user base. There is comfort in the fact that there will always be someone that can provide assistance when technical problems arise, will keep developing new features, and that the software won't die out due to lack of popularity.

posted 10-05-2003 10:04 PM               

Gary

posted 10-06-2003 03:39 PM               

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I can contact them if you think it would make a bit of difference. I'm sure though that I'll have trouble getting through their receptionist and if I tell them I'm Mr. Nice Modernists they'll say "Huh? who?"!

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Or it may creep them out a bit.

I guess I was thinking that we need to come up with a strategic plan for the next 6 months or longer. How do we gain exposure so more people will find LiveModern and then keep them hanging around. Getting a few more well known individuals involved (like KRDB) would just me one way. Adding content would be another. It seems like beginnig to think about ways to collect data on registered members would be a good start (income, location and what they are looking for in a house -- e.g. 2400 sq, ft. 3 br, 2 bath, $240,000).

posted 10-06-2003 04:36 PM               

I like the planning idea. Yes, let's start a thread on LiveModern. Hopefully it'll last more than a few days, like the other threads.

posted 10-09-2003 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by joe b:
While PHP isn't the most visually pleasing, it flows and functions well. See boards at www.eichlernetwork.com www.lottaliving.com
free software at http://www.phpbb.com/

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i was happy to see the new site, but...
i concur that online boards need to be either phpbb or infopop's ubb - they use formatting everyone is familiar with. i actually don't visit boards if they're not in this style - because the old school ones are just too cumbersome to browse easily.

on a separate note: i would like to see a webring started among ourselves:
lottaliving, dwell, livemodern, eichlernetwork, tikicentral and gomod. anyone know of any other boards that should be included in this "Modern" architecture and pop culture realm?

posted 10-24-2003 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by GaryR50:

...Good point, Rous. It may be they are running up against the same kinds of impediments we've been discussing on other threads, i.e., reluctant bankers, indifferent or antagonistic housing authorities, etc. Or, it could be they just haven't found it as profitable, and so, haven't pursued it with much effort.

Gary

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I realize I'm coming in late on this..and I haven't read very far along, but RealPill and I have a resource for this kind of informtion--I mean, we know a developer very well and could pick his brain if you like--or come up with specific questions. Developers often, then, have access to investors and such, and can influence them. That's often how housing authorities/building codes/bankers get side-stepped. You have a developer who has the experience and know how, and you can almost do anything.

also, when it gets down to it, we're both graphic designers, he much better than I, if that's something that comes up some day.

posted 10-24-2003 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by GaryR50:
That's a thought, Usonian. I'm a little reluctant, not having any experience in that regard, either. There is a lot of red tape involved in setting up a non-profit. Also, I'm not sure an organization that promotes profit-making businesses can really qualify for non-profit status. Maybe someone else knows more about this?

Gary

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I don't think that doing a non-profit could be that hard. I know plenty of CEOs that do it as a tax shelter ("oh, my wife works for the Save The Children Shelter that we started, and we're having a $300 a plate dinner tonight to honor me" etc), and I have a friend that works for a non-profit many of you know: AIA. And she's says they can hold on to what would be a profit for 2 years, at which time they have to have had spent it or it goes to employees. that's right. this same friend has employee retreats at spas (no profits allowed!) and large bonuses at the end of fiscal year.

also, that developer I was talking about earlier, does deals through a non-profit organization he set up, that pays him to find deals. It's genius.

posted 11-11-2003 04:25 PM               

This note is just to let Dwellers know that there are a couple of discussions underway at LiveModern that relate to the topic of this thread:

* Strategy on developing the network: http://livemodern.com/forums/livemodern/talkback/1068078386/view

* Ideas on how to promote the modernist housing: http://livemodern.com/promotemodernism/view

Everyone is welcome to participate. Please note that you must be registered on LiveModern to add comments to a discussion. It's free and easy.